tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post5028276153307332757..comments2023-06-28T04:34:49.637-07:00Comments on Imago Dei Northwest: Leisha=Downer, but I'm okay with thatGiancarlohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00386943911586943822noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-66706805210317332312008-01-24T10:18:00.000-08:002008-01-24T10:18:00.000-08:00I would argue that if we are able to comfortably "...I would argue that if we are able to comfortably "throw money" at an issue, it's not sacrificial at all. It's much easier to be cheerful if the "sacrifice" is minimal.Leishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13765658488132830854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-50999313647954400482008-01-20T20:23:00.000-08:002008-01-20T20:23:00.000-08:00Just don't try to dramatically hurl the money into...Just don't try to dramatically hurl the money into the sea. It's difficult.<BR/>http://the-op.com/media/image2.php?i=135thatoneguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707213759645866657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-1919498517853124692008-01-20T20:06:00.000-08:002008-01-20T20:06:00.000-08:00Mike, I like your money/time distinction, and I ag...Mike, I like your money/time distinction, and I agree; but I also think that while you and I can always earn more money, you and I are not the point. Where physical resources are also scarce, a financial contribution might be spot on. So I think sometimes it's good to "just" throw money at things, despite the lesser impact it may have on our end.thatoneguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09707213759645866657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-24030405810313913272008-01-19T17:47:00.000-08:002008-01-19T17:47:00.000-08:00i guess it always depends on who you're giving to?...i guess it always depends on who you're giving to? and what you're giving? <BR/><BR/>you know what other cultures are more rich with? making others feel appreciated, community, fruitful relationships? no?Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14603603312571902955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-69662130434239979952008-01-19T15:17:00.000-08:002008-01-19T15:17:00.000-08:00Interesting -- I thought the conversation was heav...Interesting -- I thought the conversation was heavy on the money side of giving. Maybe this is one of those things where we notice what we want to notice, rather than what actually happened.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, what struck me about the whole idea of giving is this: I can always earn more (and, by extension, give more) money. I've never felt that to be much of a challenge (maybe that will change if I ever have substantial bills). What I can never reclaim is time. That's why, at least on a personal level, I consider my time to be the bigger sacrifice. <BR/><BR/>Obviously not everyone is the same about that. But still.Giancarlohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00386943911586943822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-31747594063270645612008-01-18T14:32:00.000-08:002008-01-18T14:32:00.000-08:00I definitely don't mean any of this as a criticism...I definitely don't mean any of this as a criticism of the HC. I think the conversation on Wednesday was just the tip of the iceberg, and if we had unlimited time we might have gotten into this more.<BR/><BR/>However, as I was reminded recently, everyone in the world has the same amount of time to do what we can with. Everyone in the world has the same number of hours in the day, to give or not give with. <BR/><BR/>In America, however, we have far and away more money and financial resources than anywhere else in the world, so our level of responsibility in being the hands and feet of Christ, the ambassadors and priests of the Kingdom of God, with our money is much higher than someone who has very little.Leishahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13765658488132830854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3176011905313381534.post-90635447273971465312008-01-18T13:59:00.000-08:002008-01-18T13:59:00.000-08:00I totally don't think you're being a downer (but w...I totally don't think you're being a downer (but who am I to talk?) and I'm all for keeping things real and honest. I think you are right on in terms of us not understanding what true sacrificial money giving is like. Any time I've been hurting economically, I've been blessed to have support from other people to help me out when a lot of people don't have that luxury. And I like your point about American homeless tend to be "better off" than those in other countries as well.<BR/>However, I don't think we didn't focus on the money aspect necessarily because we didn't want to. I know I personally struggle more with giving of my time because it's easier for me to throw some money at a cause than to get personally involved in it. Plus, God was telling me a few other things that didn't necessarily have to do with money:) I think we were just trying to expand the whole concept to giving our of whole selves, which should include all our resources. I think maybe I could expand your comment that American Christians don't understand the concept of giving sacrificially at all- economically or with our lives.annie skroskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496400063819765159noreply@blogger.com